New Info about Forts!

we have some more info now:
http://forum.the-west.de/showpost.ph...69&postcount=1

Forts:
- concept done
- beta will be updated next week, building(!) forts will be available
- forts (including fights) are planned for end of June (world1.de)
- products necessary
- money of town's treasury will be used to build and attack forts
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- some fancy weapons will be available at shops in forts
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- ranking: construction points of owned forts will be added to the town's points


and don't worry, soon enough you can see this piece of information and other stuff directly:

- public blog of development in English planned

Is there any organisation between the Miestas towns for the forts?

We need some, I've been collecting wood myself for a little while. It will be interesting to see which products will be needed and how much.

Right now we have no information on how forts will be build or work. Thus we have only basic planning. When forts will be implemented in Beta I will know more and then we will have enough time for detailed planning.
As of collecting items - I believe many of our members are collecting them by not selling when they get. There is no special gathering of materials as we dont know anything on what we need and how much we need. Plus its better to level util forts (making characters stronger) and not spend time and energy for collecting materials we even might not need.

In general Miestas town that has most experienced duelers will take one fort in our sector. Those Miestas towns that are on borders with other sectors are expected to take forts in other sectors. Or if it will be the best for Miestas - one town will build forts and other towns will help in defence or attacks.

Forts have been implemented in Beta! In addition second hand weapon was added!

Build a big fort

Description
Your town needs $ 1600 and 41800 city points to construct a fort. This labor intensive project costs you 80 energy points.


Build a medium-sized fort

Description
Your town needs $ 1200 and 36200 city points to construct a fort. This labor intensive project costs you 80 energy points.



Construct a small fort

Description
Your town needs $ 800 and 24500 city points to construct a fort. This labor intensive project costs you 80 energy points.

I'll add new pictures and info when i find some

Thats really cheap not sure what I was expecting but I thought they we're going to be more than that.

there are no forts on world 1 right?

No. They just been implemented in a test world.

Here is whats written about update 1.20:


Now, here is the promised change log:

- Forts have been integrated. You can construct forts when you fulfill the requirements needed (Town's Counselor, town size, sufficient funds in town's treasury)
- Spots where forts may be constructed are shown as gray marks on the minimap. Your own forts are marked in blue, other forts in red.
- It is possible to construct buildings in your fort. For most of the buildings the construction costs products earned during jobs. Each level and the construction itself costs resources.
- The fort has a resource stock to store the products needed for the construction of buildings.
- Right now it is not possible to take resources out of the resource stock.
- Only job products are storable (no quest products).

- Because of this change all towns will be revised. Please keep on building within your towns and keep testing everything you can do there.

- Performance inhancing changes in the inventory.

- A new weapon slot is available. Guns are only used during the battles for forts and do not have any effect during duels.
- They can be purchased at the gunsmiths. Guns are also added at the already existing gunsmiths!

- The ranking is now sorted by not, not alphabetical anymore

- The report button doesn't flicker anymore.

- Players do not start outside of the map anymore

- Popups on the map for towns, forts, questgivers and jobs
- General terms and conditions on the front page
- It is now possible to show and hide all features on the minimap
- Speed is now shown in mph

Over the next few days more things will be added to this changelog. A help section for forts will also come shortly.

Fort battles will follow in the next weeks.

I know the first two resources but whats the third ring thing?

its berbed wire. you can get it from installing a barbed wire fence

So when will be the update in full version?

It is expected that update will be at the end on June/beginning of July

pi-man - Here are some screenshots I took if they interest anyone:

exciting!!

I see we'll need all sorts of products.

Even maps, flags, cloth, cottons!!!

so we need control of all forts or just one, and are we gonna invite other towns, and people from a town can visit the fort if they control t so are we going to share other forts or keep one big one?

any one from a town is allowed into a fort if there sharing it or holding it right?

and we will need team to construct the fort fast before it gets attacked

I suppose we will invite Miestas towns.

Something like Miestas 1 - 5 in one fort, and miestas 6-10 in another.

Small fort can accommodate up to 10 towns it seems.

Here is the list of items we will need for building forts:

Some items is difficult to get because don't have enough labor point (for me). For example, iron, bell, rounds, whiskey, confederate flag, oil, post horn.

So, i think who can get these items, better try to get as much as possible. And other items, like wood and barbed wire seem need a lot.

Oh no....some of them are 2% chance items :p

Then 1-10 will be doing a small fort when it comes out?

How many spot exist in a sector? We can choose what kind of fort we want to build or different spot for different fort?

There are supposed to be 3 per sector

There are 3 spots in each sector for forts - one spot for each kind (small, medium, large). Forts are founded like towns in a place where it is designated.

When forts will appear - we will be doing large fort first as it will give us most benefits, plus it usually is in about a middle of sector.

As i'm able to do most of the jobs (except for oil and bell) - i'll gather rounds and whiskey.


Here is some more info from developers:
"First for the town members of forts: There are no limitations on being member of forts or owning forts. A battle can however only declared if the declarer is not associated with that particular fort. For example, If fort X is ruled by A and B but A does also own fort Y which is not shared with B, B can attack Y but it won't be able to attack X since it is a member of that fort. There are no alliances or diplomatic relationships - only the fort owning and sharing matters and that's just simple "list" management.

The big forts are going to have different battle maps, but that is currently not worked out and the initial fortbattles will have all the same battle map layout. However, this is going to change when the battles are established and are working (technically). Smaller forts are going to be easier to be defended by smaller number of players while larger forts are going to need more defenders for an efficient defense. In turn, the attackers can more easily outnumber defenders of small forts compared to large forts. Fortbuildings are then also going to influencing how the battle maps are going to be layouted, but this feature is also going to be worked on after the beta release. I am not aware of other differences than that of the forts."

Important!

Please start collecting money for best Fort Weapon. It cost $30 000. To be on a safe side its better to gather $17 000 in items and the rest in cash. That is - do not sell any items anymore until you buy this weapon

Fort battles are on!


















MORE HERE

Very good info Lokiju. Thanks so muxch for posting it. This will defintly give us the upper hand. I am REALLY confident that any of the towns have this info and will be lost at the start and we can just take the forts as soon as possible ^^. Thanks again

lokiju wrote:

Important!

Please start collecting money for best Fort Weapon. It cost $30 000. To be on a safe side its better to gather $17 000 in items and the rest in cash. That is - do not sell any items anymore until you buy this weapon

And what exactly would this "best for weapon" be?
Lol for being $30 K it had better be the Hand Of God

its the gattling gun it does 100 -200 damage, yea you'd be undefeatable with it and no one can stop you

Is fort has been activated in all towns?

Has any Miestas town started building the forts?

It's only out in beta world right now Edward

From my experience in fort battles - do not move too much when fighting as when you move - you do not shoot

when is it coming out man i have ben saving up forever my bank is full and im scared that some one might duel me and take my money

http://devblog.the-west.net/

Tomorrow morning World 1 will be updated to version 1.20. The rest of the worlds will most likely be updated next Tuesday.

After the update it will be possible to construct forts and take part in fort battles.

Forts: Every sector now has three spots to build forts. They can be built by a town's councilors. Several buildings can be constructed in the fort, each of them giving different advantages. Constructing buildings in a fort requires products, like wood, iron and stone.

Fort battles: It is possible to try and take over the fort of another town in a big fort battle. Such a battle can be declared by a town's councilor. The fight begins 24 hours later, and the town's members should go to the fort in time to help attacking or defending the fort. The defenders have to hold the fort for 100 battle rounds, or defeat the attackers. The attackers have to take over the fort's flag that is located right in the middle of the fort and have to hold it for 10 rounds, or they have to defeat all defenders. If the attackers win, the attacking town takes over the fort.

There are still a few things that do not work as intended but are being worked on:
So far no experience points are gained in fort battles and no items are found
Constructing towers, gates and walls has no effect yet
The store cannot be constructed yet

You can find more info about forts in the help.

Guns: A new weapon class is now available. Guns can be bought at the gunsmith and will be added to the already constructed gunsmiths. During fort battles only guns are used, dueling weapons have no effect. If you don't have a gun while taking part in a battle, you will use rocks that are lying on the ground. Dueling weapons are exclusively used in duels, guns just in fort battles. The easy way to differentiate between the two is: Guns are equipped in the slot to the right of the clothing slot, dueling weapons are equipped in the slot to the left.

Other changes:
The background and the towns can be hidden on the mini map
The ranking is now not sorted by name anymore, but by the date the town was finished. Shortly there will be another change that will take fort points into consideration
The job "Constructing a fort" has been changed to "Constructing a manor house" to prevent confusion. The job's settings were not changed
The travel speed is now shown in mph. With that we make it clearer to show if a percent bonus is relative or absolute
New screen-shots have been created for the front page
Health points, experience points and energy are now also displayed with numbers
Dollar amounts are not shown in the Saloon anymore so that spies are less valuable

The forts are a very new feature. They are very complex and are still being tweaked. Please understand that over time we will have to change calculations and settings to create a good game balance.

We hope you'll enjoy building and battling for forts!